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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.08 09:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Orion GUardian
When WOW and Clones came out at some point it became fashion "let the players pay more so they get some ingame stuff for real money"
You mean expansion packs or .. ?
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.08 10:43:00 -
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My reasoning is simple:
remaps for ISK > remaps for Plex > no remaps at all
Grinding 350 m isn't that impossible, and if CCP gets more RL ISK (icelandic crowns) in the process then sure why not ..
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.08 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dankiss
I am poor and unemployed and wish I had RL money to throw around to max my skill training. I frown upon remaps for plex and will quit eve if it goes any further. It is very different from PLEX for money because in any game you will have isk farmers and sellers so CCP trying to take the profiteering away from the anonymous farmer is fine, imo. Hope CCP changes its mind.
Tip: you can farm ISK for a plex and then remap! 
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.08 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
It does not give you a direct advantage in combat. If you have a fight with someone, it makes no diffrence for you, if that's a 6 years old vet with all skills at 5, or a 1 year old player who has specialized in one ship and therefor has all skills at 5. Or a 2 years old remapper, who did not specialise but have the skills at 5 because he was training faster than a 2 year old non-remapper.
Yes but if you have a 1 year old player who hasnŠt specialized in one ship and therefore hasnŠt all skills at 5 you do have an advantage. More SP in relevant categories can (but doesnŠt neccessarily does) have a decisive advantage in PvP.
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It is a much bigger diffrence if he can buy isk from other players and therefore fit better modules, as this will have a direct impact (which no one seems to complain about).
Completely agree.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.10 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 10/10/2010 09:56:06
Originally by: Marchocias
When someone buys a plex, and exchanges it with another player for isk, the real money has ALREADY gone to CCP. At no point does the real money go to the player who is receiving the game time. Just because you spend your plex on something from another player doesn't stop CCP making cash. This is true whether a plex is exhanged for ISK, or exchanged for game time.
Of course this is true but remapping for plex has a different net effect than plex for ISK.
Plex for ISK and using plex for gametime is basically just paying for someone else's subscription in exchange of ISK.
Before:
Player X has 700 million ISK, $100
Player Y has 0, $200
--> CCP gets 2 months of subscription (2 * regular)
After:
Player X has 350 million ISK, $70 (payed CCP for plex + subscription)
Player Y has 350 million ISK, $200 (plex for ISK from Player X, uses for gametime)
--> CCP gets 2 months of subscription (1 "regular", 1 by plex)
Now look at the plex for remap situation:
After:
Player X has 350 million ISK, $70 (payed CCP for plex + subscription)
Player Y has 350 million ISK, $185 (ISK for plex, uses for remap + sub to CCP)
--> CCP gets 3 months of subscription (2 "regular", 1 by plex)
So in the remap case, CCP gets a small financial profit while this didn't happen in case of plex for gametime. That how you'd define a "true" microtransaction.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.10 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 10/10/2010 10:52:49
Originally by: Forum Guy
As for buying characters, I don't see the point as I'd prefer to develop the character in the way I want it to develop.
You're kind of contradicting yourself imo. We already have a situation that if you're prepared to pay USD 300 for plexes you can buy a 60 million SP character. Yes it's dependent on the market but I haven't heard people complaining that they can't sell their plexes, in fact their prices are steadily rising.
The fact that you won't do it doesn't mean other players can't do it. So there already is a mechanism that favours the big wallets, 60 million in one day is a bit more than a possible 2-4 million SP a year because of better remaps.
This whole remapping stuff for plex is very minor in comparison so I'm really surprised that you 100% agree with 60 million characters for plex for IRL money and not with a small advantage gained by remapping.
That you pay for other people's gametime instead of paying CCP for your advantage has nothing to do with the reality of being able to buy your in-game advantage and that the game mechanics greatly favour "big wallets".
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.10 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Voith
Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Voith
Originally by: Serpents smile
It starts with something harmless. Some of us just are worried where it will lead to.
The only thing this is going to lead to is some dork paying $15 for a cool hat.
When enough dorks don't buy the cool hats CCP might look at offering cool ships/modules/implants/skills you can buy from them and only them.
This is so dumb I do not know where to begin.
Yes indeed. Who doesn't want to buy a cool hat?!?!!
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